Twitter Me This, Is Jaiku a Threat? Let’s Ask Those Defining the Landscape

twitter vs. jaiku

Breaking news!

Ok not really. But Leo Laporte jumping ship and joining Jaiku has definitely sparked controversy. And, it set the stage for a series of discussions comparing and contrasting Twitter and Jaiku – thus leaving behind the few other competitors that seem to miss these important discussions online.

It all started with Leo Laporte broadcasting a goodbye from Twitter – “Goodbye Twitter and Hello Jaiku.” The reigning king of Twitter, with over 4,400 followers, indeed left the community in favor of up-and-coming site, Jaiku.

Why?

“Twitter is so close to TWiT that I’m afraid it’s really confusing. Twitter has nothing to do with TWiT. And, I’m afraid, I can’t have anything to do with Twitter, either. It’s just fueling the confusion,” according to Leo.

This is a surprising move, and at the same time not so surprising. There has been confusion within the community between his show, TWiT (The Week in Tech), and the Twitter brand, along with all of the other Twitter related offshoots, including Twittervision, Twittersearch, Twitteroo, Twitterific, etc. But at the same time, it has most likely increased awareness and viewers for TWiT.

Robert Scoble responded with a post confirming Leo’s departure. He also published a few of the most important and fore “telling” tweets (or twits) from Leo that no longer appear on the service.

I’ve asked Ev to delete my Twitter account. I’m concerned about confusion with TWiT. I’m moving to Jaiku: account is ChiefTWiT. CU there!”

and

“I should never have trademarked TWiT. Curse you Ev. Couldn’t you have called this Odeoer or something?”

The comments are the most informative and interesting however, because they allude to to the prospect that Leo may seek legal recourse to protect his TWiT trademark.

On an entertaining sidenote, however, Scoble and Jeremiah Owyang also took the opportunity to teach one commenter a lesson in PR (2.0). Co-founder of Twitter and Jaiku competitor, Loopnote, unintentionally exposed the company’s weak marketing savvy when questioning why no one was talking about his service.

Scoble commented, “Sorry, Martin, but NO ONE has told me about your service. And I have hundreds of thousands of readers per week. The fact that you weren’t here screaming your head off tells me you aren’t very up to date on how markets work in the Web 2.0 world.”

Ouch!

Scoble continued his lesson in PR 101, “Get onto the RSS bus. Learn to use Technorati and Google Blog Search (different than Google) and search for your name, your product name, your company name, your competitor’s names.”

OK. But let’s get back to the emerging tug-of-war between Twitter and Jaiku…

What is most interesting about Leo’s defection to Jaiku is that he was one of the few key influencers that literally spiked Twitter subscriptions, even prior to frenzy created at the Gamers Developer Conference in San Francisco and SXSW in Austin. For those who may not know the significance of these events, hundreds of highly influential bloggers, vloggers, and entrepreneurs (including Scoble) brought the twitter network down to a crawl by constnatly twittering their status during these events. Rafe Needleman, Stowe Boyd, Scoble, and I also recently twitter’d the Under the Radar Office 2.0 event.

What Laporte did for Twitter, he is now reproducing for Jaiku. It’s the Leo effect.

Now, there is a line in the sand. A division between Twitter and Jaiku. No one thinks that two can survive and that this tournament of arm wrestling will only divide the Twitter community.

However, I don’t think so.

Both offer points of value that will appeal to different market segments (left and right) as well as those who can enjoy playing both sides of the fence (the middle).

Chris Saad praises Twitter” 1. It’s dead simple. 2. It has lots of great people on it.”

Scoble agrees, “Jaiku is better software than Twitter (more features) but Twitter is a better community. In this game community wins!”

Yes. They’re both right. But, I believe they’re serving different groups.

Twitter is simple and it’s beautiful that way. And its community is well established and some of the most amazing people thrive from reading and sharing information through the Web, mobile text, IM, etc.

Jaiku is a bit more involved. For one, it’s almost a profile aggregator of sorts, allowing you to bring in feeds from other sources, including Twitter, blogs, del.icio.us, flickr, etc., so that your updates traverse across your multiple online personae through one social, integrated personal stream (or flow). It also allows comments on individual posts to continue threaded conversations, which is better suited to those seeking more meaningful engagements and conversations – well as deep as a nanoblogging platform would allow (and promote).

I reached out to Jyri Engestrom and Petteri Koponen, co-founders of Jaiku to get their take on Twitter vs. Jaiku.

According to Engestrom, “Our goal’s to bring people closer together by enabling them to share their stream of life: what they’re doing, how they’re feeling, where they’re going. It combines activities from the real world with things they share online. The aim’s to deliver this in a well-designed, fun package.”

When I asked how it’s unique, he responded with several key differentiators…
1) Jaiku doesn’t spam you with texts (more control over who and what you follow)
2) It supports conversation better (threaded comments)
3) It can also be used from a free mobile application (better experience)
4) It looks cooler and supports icons & Flickr photos (more fun!)
5) It enables you to add your blog, photos, videos, bookmarks, and other Web feeds to your stream so you contacts can get an overview of the different things you’ve been up to

His answers only fuel my beliefs, that Jaiku is a completely different platform carrying genuie value to a different set of users who enjoy a richer feature-set. The only people fueling the debate are those on either side of the fence. Those in the middle, or those new to the new “everywhere” messaging landscape, will find value in both and join the service that most aligns with their routine, RSS feeds, profiles, and, of course, where their associates communicate regularly.

Now for the fun…

I documented highlights from the Twitter stream so that you can watch events unfold in real time. I’ll update this as significant posts are shared…

Leo-april Leo Laporte’s final twitter
leolaporte
Hmm. My account is still active here. Twitter folks – you can add your Twitter feed to http://Jaiku.com and have a presence on both.

Leo Laporte from Jaiku
I left Twitter with regret – but I have to say Jaiku has opened my eyes to what’s possible. Twitter seems kind of barren to me now.

Trafficlight
Scobleizer Jaiku is reacting slower than Twitter. It requires more clicks to see your messages than Twitter. And is more complicated. I never knew of it until today, which isn’t saying much. What’s cool about both of these is the people on them. NOT the technology.”

Scobleizer
Jaiku is lame compared to Twitter. Sorry, Web access is a MUST for these kind of things. Otherwise, I’d use Google’s Dodgeball.

Me
ChrisSaad
@Scobleizer: Jaiku is totally different to Twitter

Scobleizer @ChrisSaad says Jaiku is totally different than Twitter. Fine. I can’t deal with yet another one. Why not Google’s Dodgeball?

Scobleizer Hmmm, now I’m on Jaiku too. http://scobleizer.jaiku.com/ I really hate being forced to be on two different services. This is better than IM

Stowe_boyd-bw
stoweboyd
@scoble – jaiku is not ‘threaded discussions’ as you suggested at you account. It’s another flow app, like Twitter.

Scobleizer @stoweboyd: but on my account at http://scobleizer.jaiku.com/ I see threaded discussions. Not like here on Twitter where everything is flat.

stoweboyd @scoble – although it does add the notion of comments.

Scobleizer Jaiku seems even slower than Twitter. I didn’t think anything could make that so!

Scobleizer …Twitter Wins! Leo loses.

ChrisSaad @Scobleizer: Jaiku has a different focus I believe – it’s a lifestream creator. Pour all your personal RSS into it – not just Twitters

Scobleizer Jaiku is better software than Twitter (more features) but Twitter is a better community. In this game community wins!

Scobleizer Jaiku doesn’t have an API yet, right? That’s another sizeable stumbling block. And, Jaiku is having scaling issues with FAR less traffic.

Ross_mayfield
Ross
@scoble If more of my friends were using Nokias, I’d be on Jaiku instead

Rafeneedleman_hr_01-crop
Rafe
Jaiku? Sure, it’s got the features, but why split this community?

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briansolis
@Rafe Is it splitting 1 community or does it have the opp to create its own – comprised of a whole diff set of users?

leolaporte I am worried about losing my trademark – Ev and I need to talk

Scobleizer Trademark law: if you don’t defend your trademarks you give them up to public domain.

Scobleizer @Rafe: cause Leo is positioning for a trademark lawsuit against Twitter, according to his final Tweets.

Leo Laporte from Jaiku
Scoble is now the uncontested King of Twitter. Long live the King. (I’m glad Jaiku doesn’t count followers!)

Scobleizer Simplicity of Twitter wins. To find new comments on Jaiku I gotta click on comments, just like on my blog. Sigh. Twitter’s simplicity rock

Rafeneedleman_hr_01-crop
Rafe
i’ll be damned if i’m going to update jaiku and twitter too… so trying lazy option: adding twitter feed to my jaiku acct.

Ross @rafe now all we need is jaiku to twitter: we can all get along

Rafe Is it possible Twitter and Jaiku will end up sharing users, instead of hoarding them like the IM services did early on?

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jspepper
@Rafe – no, I can’t see that happen. It’s still that user mentality.

Rafe I vote we lock Ev & Jyri (Jaiku) in a room until they agree to interconnect their systems.

Rafe @ross Fine, as long as twitter-jaiku (twitterku?) doesn’t end up as an infinite twitter-jaiku-twitter-jaiku-etc feedback loop. noisy!
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  • Alan

    Hi, well Scoble was right, we joined the party a little late but we’re here now and just when things are getting hot! Loopnote lets people send alerts out to people, whether its about the person or a specific topic. Our focus has been letting different types of groups send alerts out to their community. We think that has a lot more staying power than getting alerts only about personas – plus with loopnote you can make “loops” open so others can send messages as well. Come check it out, let us know what you think.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for putting those Twitter and Jaiku posts up. It confirms every negative preconception I’d had about the services. Still, allusions to twit and wittering are rather less pretentious than allusions to Haiku.

  • Anonymous

    It’s been mentioned already, but I’ll repeat the idea that Twitter and Jaiku are different and can coexist peacefully.

    Twitter has the ease of use for me. I can update by Twitterrific, by IM, by the web, etc. It’s easier to show people unfamiliar with Web2.0 stuff in general (i.e. my family). If you just want to read my nanoblog thoughts, follow me on Twitter.

    In all honestly, I may never post directly to Jaiku. I can link in my Twitter account and it’ll get mirrored at Jaiku, which is good because AFAIK there’s no Twitterrific equivalent for Jaiku.

    However, I can also link in my Last.FM account, my del.icio.is account, etc. It’s cool to be able to combine a bunch of disparate places into one unified snapshot of my world. I’m not sure anyone would want to follow *all* of that, but if they did, they could follow me on Jaiku rather than going to all the separate places.

    My big fear is that Twitter will try to copy some of Jaiku’s features and make itself too complex.

  • Adam Lasnik

    Doesn’t this somewhat-annoying back-and-forthness (re: Scoble and others) indeed suggest that for some things Jaiku really WOULD be more pleasant and efficient?

  • Anonymous

    god you people are like preschoolers. “look! my bellybutton !!”

  • Brian Solis

    Hey Alan, Thank you for sharing and for being a good sport. Well it’s never too late to engage, but there is quite a bit of catching up to do. I’ll take a look at Loopnote.

    @Anonymous #1 – you’re welcome.

    @Anonymous #2 – Yes. Agreed. They can and will coexist. Twitter’s strength is its simplicity while Jaiku’s strength is its aggregated diversity.

    @Adam Lasnik – Yes, indeed you’re right. What’s appealing to one isn’t necessarily the attraction for all – no matter how influential the person is…

    @Anonymous #3 – Interesting comment, however I don’t agree with your perception. But hey, really, wanna see my bellybutton?

  • Geoff_Livingston

    Competition is good, so I think Jaiku enriches the marketplace with new options. Worse case scenario is that Twitter gets better.

    Neither of these media forms really excites me though. Of course, that may mean I am reaching dotage or am becoming a Luddite.

  • Anonymous

    speaking of PR and Twitter…does anyone know if they handle PR in house or use an outside agency?

    Thanks,
    Stella

  • Hugh Jardon

    Assuming that Leo actually did have plans to sue to protect his trademark he wouldn’t have a case. The word “twitter” appears in the English dictionary and although the primary definition is used when describing a sound a bird makes, the second definition refers to talking softly and rapidly, which is appropriate for Twitter.

    On the other hand TWiT is an acronym for the name of a podcast and is not intended to be used as a word. I always thought it was a stupid name personally, since anytime I hear the word “twit” I think of an idiot.

    The only legal confusion caused by the names is because they sound similar but there is no real confusion between the two websites themselves. It would be like Burger King claiming that someone can’t use the word “burger” in their name.

  • Brian Solis

    Interesting point Hugh…I think everything worked out just fine for all parties involved.

  • Dennis Bjørn Petersen

    Perhaps this question should be asked again.

    Is Jaiku a competitor to twitter now?

    Are twitter facing their downfall?

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